You are both ill-informed, as is the OAS preliminary rpt (which I hope they will update). If it was perceived as going “smoothly,” it’s b/c too many have absorbed the nat’l embarrassment of voter suppression as acceptable. It isn’t. For your edification: https://t.co/DENXBkvYmt https://t.co/8d0UdBLdv4
— Sherrilyn Ifill (@Sifill_LDF) November 27, 2020
My take on the SCOTUS, they’re not going to burn their “credibility” on trump. There are way too many things to fuck up for Americans; to be sold out to business concerns, for them to risk all that on trump.
BREAKING: Trump allies ask Michigan judge to set aside election results https://t.co/UWutcc7CGB
— Detroit Free Press (@freep) November 30, 2020
re: #2 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
My take on the SCOTUS, they’re not going to burn their “credibility” on trump. There are way too many things to fuck up for Americans; to be sold out to business concerns, for them to risk all that on trump.
Trump has outlived his usefulness. He did what the Republicans wanted, pack the courts and give lots of welfare to the rich. Now they will throw him off the boat after they put him in a concrete overcoat.
re: #4 🌹UOJB!
Trump has outlived his usefulness. He did what the Republicans wanted, pack the courts and give lots of welfare to the rich. Now they will throw him off the boat after they put him in a concrete overcoat.
Especially because he’s now shown he’s willing to turn on them to save himself.
Federal Judge Advances Lawsuit Accusing Felix Sater of Laundering Loot Through Trump Properties https://t.co/3xkrrH5qIf via @lawcrimenews
— Laffy (@GottaLaff) November 30, 2020
“…In this case, Kazakhstan’s largest city and a Kazakhstani bank seek to recover millions of dollars in stolen funds from those who allegedly helped the culprits launder them,” U.S. District Judge Alison Nathan summarized in a 25-page opinion dismissing only two counts of a six-count complaint. “Felix Sater—the alleged ringleader of the money-laundering operation—along with his associate Daniel Ridloff and several business entities they control, move to dismiss.”
Like Sater, Ridloff was also formerly associated with the Trump Organization.”
“…Sater has been linked to a $30 million Kazakh deal to buy debt in Tri-County Mall, a suburban Cincinnati shopping center, and then sell it at auction to a Chinese-linked company called APIC that paid $45 million in 2013.
Previous reports have said that Sater was sued for allegedly withholding nearly all of that sale money — between $43 million and $45 million, a source says — from those involved in one of the alleged money laundering companies, Triadou, before a settlement in December 2013.”
nydailynews.com
Breaking: Arizona election results certified. Biden wins state by 10,500 votes. AZ’s GOP governor, AG & chief justice in attendance for certification
— Ari Berman (@AriBerman) November 30, 2020
re: #4 🌹UOJB!
***Trump has outlived his usefulness***. He did what the Republicans wanted, pack the courts and give lots of welfare to the rich. Now they will throw him off the boat after they put him in a concrete overcoat.
**Which is why his lawyers are who they are and not real lawyers.
It’s all he can get now
re: #7 lawhawk
Yep, and our idiot governor wasn’t wearing a mask…as usual…sigh
re: #4 🌹UOJB!
Trump has outlived his usefulness. He did what the Republicans wanted, pack the courts and give lots of welfare to the rich. Now they will throw him off the boat after they put him in a concrete overcoat.
And that’s where the fun will begin. Being a Republican in 2020 is defined only by loyalty to Trump and Trump’s agenda. I think there’s gonna be a ton of infighting in the next few years as they fight to be the most Trumpy yet somehow electable.
re: #8 dangerman
**Which is why his lawyers are who they are and not real lawyers.
It’s all he can get now
Or sad hacks like Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell.
re: #9 Egregious Philbin
Once again he earns the pun on his name. He’s already pissed off the right wingers by permitting mask mandates. What does he think he has to gain by not wearing a mask? I mean, I’ve never read him as quite as stupid as most of our state legislators.
Sorry, but I do not believe GOP elites actually “hated” Trump. He may have offended their trust fund sensibilities, but he was their golden goose, delivering all the shitty legislation and far right judges and billionaire tax cuts they dreamed about for decades.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 30, 2020
They may have found him personally distasteful (or maybe not), but they LOVED what he was doing. And I for one am never going to forget.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 30, 2020
Jen Rubin, WaPo: Forget half-baked punditry. Watch a historic shift.
…The media should have a modicum of self-awareness. At the very least, they ought to acknowledge that billions of pixels and months of political chatter did not inform the public; if anything, they misled voters about President Trump’s level of support and wasted the opportunity to inform voters about the variety and seriousness of the challenges we will face in 2021. …
The shift in the quality of the executive branch raises a host of interesting questions:
Can Biden rebuild an executive branch that Trump demoralized and hollowed out?
Can governance based on the best available facts produce results?
Can Biden prove centrist government is alive and well — and can win over voters?
Can Biden seize an opportunity when more Americans are sensitized to issues of racial justice to make significant reforms and create a new spirit of reconciliation?
The incoming Biden administration brings hope to tens of millions of people for a decent human being in the White House, a normal foreign policy (in which allies are respected and despots checked) and a level of competency that may effectively deliver a life-saving vaccine — to name just a few of the potential benefits. But the end of the election also offers us an opportunity to recalibrate and remember that what matters in politics is what happens after the election. Campaigns are a means to an end. Returning to a level of seriousness and focus on the substance of governance is long overdue in media coverage. Thanks to Biden’s substantial win, we now have the opportunity — and the obligation to do just that.
re: #12 DesertDenizen
I used to work with one of his staffers who is handling the Covid response. We used to call her “idiot girl”, she is from a very wealthy family, never ever has had to experience any facet of life that common folk experience, tone deaf to the real world. Just a party hack and suck up. Pretty weird person to boot.
Socks and sandals! They should be penitent.
— LouBLou 🕷⚫️ #3.5% FBCoalition2024 #FBPE #Rejoiner (@LouBuchanan17) November 30, 2020
pastrami on rye, two ways pic.twitter.com/Mlc25Nqjb0
— jeffreyw (@imjeffreyw) November 29, 2020
No. But Trump’s appalling racism and staggering incompetence did motivate a lot us to vote against him. He energized the base. 🤷🏿♀️ https://t.co/GB5TPYDoSU
— (((RuggedAmethyst))) (@GrooveSDC) November 30, 2020
re: #14 retired cynic
Jen Rubin, WaPo: Forget half-baked punditry. Watch a historic shift.
I am just glad that there are writers like Rubin who are loudly saying what needs to be said- Biden fucking won and he fucking won pretty big. Maybe not a landslide but Trump was soundly rejected. His popular vote margin was bigger than about half of the states’ individual populations. If Trump got to brag about his “historical victory” four years ago, I think Biden has the right to do so with the same EV margin and an actual popular vote win in a historical turnout.
re: #15 Egregious Philbin
Why am I not surprised? Because of my job I know my state senator and representatives. One is stupid and a thief, one is stupid and mean, and the last is mean and pretends to be stupid for the local rural hicks. They easily won reelection despite directly harming their constituents for personal gain and the gain of the ultra rich. I hate rural Arizona sometimes.
re: #18 Patricia Kayden
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I don’t see why this is so hard to understand. Voter turnout was absolutely historic because Trump is a giant asshole who people either worship or despise. It just so happens that more people despise him than worship him, and in the right places. This election was not about Biden, it was a referendum on the practices and policies of Donald John Trump.
Among his other “accomplishments” Donald Trump managed to turn Arizona blue in a presidential election. That is no small feat for a guy with such small hands.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 30, 2020
re: #11 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Or sad hacks like Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell.
Thems who I meant
re: #22 Charles Johnson
Thank all the expat Californians and young non-white folks. Despite the Air Force base, Tucson is deep blue and the Phoenix area seems to be trending that way as it grows even bigger.
re: #20 DesertDenizen
I hate rural Arizona sometimes.
I’m still trying to figure out why not just Arizona, but all of rural (white) America seems to have developed a case of bad-faith, trolling nihilism and oppositional-defiant disorder. Is it really just fear of America becoming majority PoC, or something else?
re: #23 dangerman
Thems who I meant
They’re real lawyers, at least in name (although wasn’t Rudy’s status to practice law not in good standing?) They may be hacks, but they are legitimate and valid legal hacks.
I’m glad they’re figuring it out now, but how did they not notice over the past four years that this is the way Trump has always been? https://t.co/2B0gWiCeeP
— skullsinthestars - Black lives matter (@drskyskull) November 30, 2020
They noticed, and they liked it. Don’t believe their pretense now.
re: #18 Patricia Kayden
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Why?
Do you believe barak obama was running for something?
No. But Trump’s appalling racism and staggering incompetence did motivate a lot us to vote against him. He energized the base. 🤷🏿♀️ https://t.co/GB5TPYDoSU
— (((RuggedAmethyst))) (@GrooveSDC) November 30, 2020
re: #20 DesertDenizen
I could tell you stories about a former speaker of the house that went on a trip to DC that was meant for employers….Glendale mayor was on it too (he was in the house back then)…morons.
Have a minute sometime today? Read this thread. https://t.co/Fdpj1E1BnC
— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) November 30, 2020
re: #25 Interesting Times
I’m still trying to figure out why not just Arizona, but all of rural (white) America seems to have developed a case of bad-faith, trolling nihilism and oppositional-defiant disorder. Is it really just fear of America becoming majority PoC, or something else?
Yes. Despite, or perhaps because, this area is mostly brown, the white transplants are massively racist. It interests me that the town supporting the Army Fort is somehow less racist than the more rural parts of the county. I work for a municipality after ten years at the county and I heard every racial slur imaginable in the course of my job. And these hicks assumed I agreed because I’m a middle aged cis white male.
re: #19 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I am just glad that there are writers like Rubin who are loudly saying what needs to be said- Biden fucking won and he fucking won pretty big. Maybe not a landslide but Trump was soundly rejected. His popular vote margin was bigger than about half of the states’ individual populations. If Trump got to brag about his “historical victory” four years ago, I think Biden has the right to do so with the same EV margin and an actual popular vote win in a historical turnout.
Trump lost when at the same time most other rs won
A sound rejection of him
re: #31 Egregious Philbin
I could tell you stories about a former speaker of the house that went on a trip to DC that was meant for employers….Glendale mayor was on it too (he was in the house back then)…morons.
Gowan?
re: #25 Interesting Times
I’m still trying to figure out why not just Arizona, but all of rural (white) America seems to have developed a case of bad-faith, trolling nihilism and oppositional-defiant disorder. Is it really just fear of America becoming majority PoC, or something else?
It’s the culmination of decades of fear-mongering. The right wing fear machine has been slowly increasing the amplitude over the years; every time a new Democratic administration comes to power, they kick it up a notch, then ride that wave to power and use it to do everything they can to prevent another Democratic administration. When their efforts eventually fall short, they turn it up again, and so on and so forth. It helps that their parallel effort to inspire casual racism in their followers has allowed them to increase their rhetoric to match the increase in volume.
…we are in for 2 years at least of “Bernie would have won, too, and the conservative ticket-splitters who won it for Biden would have sat home so we’d have the Senate and we’d have a chance to retain the House in ‘22”, aren’t we?
— Chrysi Cat (no, Karen is STILL my sister!) (@chrysicat) November 30, 2020
re: #36 thedopefishlives
It’s the culmination of decades of fear-mongering. The right wing fear machine has been slowly increasing the amplitude over the years; every time a new Democratic administration comes to power, they kick it up a notch, then ride that wave to power and use it to do everything they can to prevent another Democratic administration. When their efforts eventually fall short, they turn it up again, and so on and so forth. It helps that their parallel effort to inspire casual racism in their followers has allowed them to increase their rhetoric to match the increase in volume.
The transplants are the worst. They move here from Idaho or some such and expect everyone on the border to be white and English speaking. Not that the old timers are much better.
re: #25 Interesting Times
I’m still trying to figure out why not just Arizona, but all of rural (white) America seems to have developed a case of bad-faith, trolling nihilism and oppositional-defiant disorder. Is it really just fear of America becoming majority PoC, or something else?
They want us to recognize their dwindling rural existence while they loudly and actively denigrate and want to disfranchise where most people live. They certainly don’t want to lift a finger to address “city problems”, but we should rescue them from theirs
re: #26 thedopefishlives
They’re real lawyers, at least in name (although wasn’t Rudy’s status to practice law not in good standing?) They may be hacks, but they are legitimate and valid legal hacks.
I know. I wasnt clear in my snark mode
I should have quoted “real”
Or // it
re: #38 DesertDenizen
The transplants are the worst. They move here from Idaho or some such and expect everyone on the border to be white and English speaking. Not that the old timers are much better.
Yeah, I was looking more at the problem of rural white America in general, not specific to Arizona necessarily. Here in the heart of the Midwest, people aren’t generally rude enough to be outwardly racist (except in the “I don’t hate Black people, but…” sense), but the basic concepts of racism are accepted and silently agreed with. They’ve been prepped by years of DEMOCRATS ARE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS AND WILL FORCE YOUR WOMEN TO BE RAVISHED BY STRONG BLACK MEN AND HAVE THEIR ABORTIONS AND LET’S NOT FORGET TEH GEYZ to respond instinctively whenever someone utters one of those trigger words.
re: #33 DesertDenizen
Yes. Despite, or perhaps because, this area is mostly brown, the white transplants are massively racist. It interests me that the town supporting the Army Fort is somehow less racist than the more rural parts of the county. I work for a municipality after ten years at the county and I heard every racial slur imaginable in the course of my job. And these hicks assumed I agreed because I’m a middle aged cis white male.
For the most part, the military is less racist than the country as a whole. They’ve been integrated longer and their lives depend on it. There are exceptions, in badly-led units.
re: #24 DesertDenizen
Thank all the expat Californians and young non-white folks. Despite the Air Force base, Tucson is deep blue and the Phoenix area seems to be trending that way as it grows even bigger.
they helped, as did Cindy McCain. but c’mon.
Biden won Arizona by just over 10,000. The 20,000 Navaho voters supported Biden 96-4. That’s the margin. That’s the entire margin, and then some.
re: #29 jaunte
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They noticed, and they liked it. Don’t believe their pretense now.
Only because it’s failing.
re: #16 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
That reminds me of the first time I saw photos online of Christian Holy Week celebrations — OMG, the world is full of Ku Klux Klanners.
Of course it’s just that the KKK incorporated that kind of Christian symbolism into its symbolism.
The Supreme Court sounded skeptical during oral arguments that President Trump could exclude people living in the U.S. illegally from the 2020 census. The once-a-decade population count is used to allot seats in the House of Representatives. https://t.co/XYebL4H3cp
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 30, 2020
Thread
SCOTUS will hear the outgoing Trump admin’s appeal of a unanimous three-judge ruling rejecting its memo attempting to exclude undocumented immigrants from census apportionment.@NewYorkStateAG pointed to an ugly pedigree of redefining “persons.”
Covering live, @LawCrimeNews pic.twitter.com/oi1DJzVZjF— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 30, 2020
And video (ish) (page also includes text of oral arguments)
Oyez, oyez, oyez.
Here we go: https://t.co/03cwsLS8wP— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 30, 2020
re: #24 DesertDenizen
don’t forget the native american vote came out heavily for Biden, something along the lines of 40k votes from the reservations. Those get out the vote drives paid off huge dividends in that Coconino and I believe even Navajo county went blue in the last election.
re: #47 piratedan
Funny what happens when you ignore a major populace during a pandemic, and send body bags instead of ppe. They come out on massive force against you.
Let’s not ever forget that the anti-American, spending the 4th of July in Russia REPUBLICANS are so anti-American that they are trying to override the will of the American people.
REPUBLICANS are Anti-American.
REPUBLICANS do not believe in American ideals.
Never. Forget. pic.twitter.com/NB5GWBQQaK— Yeah Sure WTF Ever 🇨🇦🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸🇨🇦 (@YeahSureWhatev2) November 30, 2020
re: #43 sagehen
they helped, as did Cindy McCain. but c’mon.
Biden won Arizona by just over 10,000. The 20,000 Navaho voters supported Biden 96-4. That’s the margin. That’s the entire margin, and then some.
It is interesting to just look at the margin and say it was because of this group or that group, but over 3 and a quarter million people voted in the election in arizona and if the percentage among white voters or latino voters shifted a couple percentage points it would have swamped the entire Navaho vote. Good for them and thank goodness they came out in the numbers they did, but it was a group effort.
Daughter2 gleaned from the intertubes:
Mail-in Points Arrive. Auburn Wins Iron Bowl, 276-42.
How are they this wrong about absolutely everything? https://t.co/2gsKPoksg4
— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) November 30, 2020
FCC Chairman Ajit Pai will step down on January 20th.
As he will leave the FCC too, this could allow for a Democratic majority on the FCC sooner than expected.
re: #50 danarchy
It is interesting to just look at the margin and say it was because of this group or that group, but over 3 and a quarter million people voted in the election in arizona and if the percentage among white voters or latino voters shifted a couple percentage points it would have swamped the entire Navaho vote. Good for them and thank goodness they came out in the numbers they did, but it was a group effort.
Once again no one knows who’s vote is counted “last”
It just doesn’t mean anything
The amassed total of individual votes is the only thing that matters
Honestly, not unexpected
Navy just announced that the Bonhomme Richard, an amphibious assault ship that burned for days in San Diego this summer, will be scrapped. Rebuild/reconfiguration too pricey.https://t.co/H8Du5Pr6Is
— Geoff Ziezulewicz (@JournoGeoffZ) November 30, 2020
re: #50 danarchy
It is interesting to just look at the margin and say it was because of this group or that group, but over 3 and a quarter million people voted in the election in arizona and if the percentage among white voters or latino voters shifted a couple percentage points it would have swamped the entire Navaho vote. Good for them and thank goodness they came out in the numbers they did, but it was a group effort.
Also, don’t forget that the margin in 2016 was a little over 91k for Trump. So, with Biden winning by 10.4k, that’s a swing of over 100k votes. Every vote in Arizona helped.
re: #52 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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How are they this wrong about absolutely everything? https://t.co/2gsKPoksg4
— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) November 30, 2020
re: #56 KGxvi
Also, don’t forget that the margin in 2016 was a little over 91k for Trump. So, with Biden winning by 10.4k, that’s a swing of over 100k votes. Every vote in Arizona helped.
a 100k vote swing in the margin with about 800k more votes than in 2016
We should never forget all the people drawn from the cities to the coal mines of Appalachia and the Rockies because of all the great new jobs Trump created there. ////
re: #37 Chrysicat
There’s absolutely no way that Bernie would have won. I’m so glad that Biden stepped up to the plate and that Blacks in South Carolina picked him in the primaries. We dodged a bullet since only Biden could win the general. This country just isn’t ready for a socialist president. Sorry Bernie Bros.
This is the husband of Margarita Simonyan, editor in chief of @RT; she is the writer on this show. It appears on a Kremlin-controlled TV station. The person in blackface is pretending to be Barack Obama, who says he’s proud of his memoir because all his ancestors were illiterate. https://t.co/2YKn1lv2zK
— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) November 30, 2020
re: #60 Patricia Kayden
There’s absolutely no way that Bernie would have won. I’m so glad that Biden stepped up to the plate and that Blacks in South Carolina picked him in the primaries. We dodged a bullet since only Biden could win the general. This country just isn’t ready for a socialist president. Sorry Bernie Bros.
💯! Not a chance in hell. Dodged a bullet, indeed.
Black women saved the republic.
re: #60 Patricia Kayden
There’s absolutely no way that Bernie would have won. I’m so glad that Biden stepped up to the plate and that Blacks in South Carolina picked him in the primaries. We dodged a bullet since only Biden could win the general. This country just isn’t ready for a socialist president. Sorry Bernie Bros.
If it had been Sanders vs Trump, I’d have spent most of this year planning my expatriation.
re: #62 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
💯! Not a chance in hell. Dodged a bullet, indeed.
Black women saved the republic.
It was a group effort. // (Yes, mocking this very thread.)
re: #55 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Honestly, not unexpected
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Though of course, the Navy will probably go to great lengths to cover up the REAL reason for Bonhomme Richard’s scrapping: that it was blown up by a secret robot stealth torpedo fired from the Antifa Marine Commando’s secret robot stealth submarine: the ASS Saul Alinsky…
re: #57 dangerman
THIS level of “thinking” what we’re fighting against
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This is nothing new. The GOP has been producing that map for years — it’s what Trump shows everyone who visits the Oval Office.
re: #60 Patricia Kayden
There’s absolutely no way that Bernie would have won. I’m so glad that Biden stepped up to the plate and that Blacks in South Carolina picked him in the primaries. We dodged a bullet since only Biden could win the general. This country just isn’t ready for a socialist president. Sorry Bernie Bros.
This logic of theirs is tiresome.
If bernie could have won, he would have.
He didnt.
He lost.
re: #68 dangerman
This logic of theirs is tiresome.
If bernie could have won, he would have.
He didnt.
He lost.
I don’t think he would have won if Biden hadn’t got in the race. I think voters would have coalesced around someone else, I’m just not sure who it would have been… if the primary field had thinned out earlier with no Biden and been something like Warren, Harris, Sanders, and Buttigeg, I don’t think Sanders would have had much of a chance in that field.
re: #67 Hecuba’s daughter
This is nothing new. The GOP has been producing that map for years — it’s what Trump shows everyone who visits the Oval Office.
I know that.
But this guy isnt in government
Just a joe (assuming)
he’s bought it hook to sinker and now he’s peddling it
.@HayesBrown: Even on his way out, Pres. Trump continues to place white people’s grievances over national security.https://t.co/w40YWrLUHz
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) November 30, 2020
re: #69 KGxvi
I don’t think he would have won if Biden hadn’t got in the race. I think voters would have coalesced around someone else, I’m just not sure who it would have been… if the primary field had thinned out earlier with no Biden and been something like Warren, Harris, Sanders, and Buttigeg, I don’t think Sanders would have had much of a chance in that field.
You can’t ignore and leapfrog over the ds you can’t beat and claim you could vanquish the R opponent, especially a trump
re: #61 Barefoot Grin
Expect a retweet by Trump or his stooges soon.
— Tawfiq Karimi (@tawfiqkarimi) November 30, 2020
re: #66 Jay C
[I Am Not A Naval Engineer Disclaimer] - but even I had figured this out after the fire hadn’t been contained or extinguished after a day: the cost of an extensive structural rebuild such as BHR was likely to require was probably enough that the Navy thought it worth its while (and well-worth it, I’m sure, to whatever MIC mega-corp would get a possible contract) to just build a new one.
…
As I tweeted at a group of defense journalists while the fire continued to rage on day two “…I may not be a metallurgist, but I remember enough from High School science to know that prolonged exposure to extreme temperature will alter the physical properties of most metals…”
re: #55 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Honestly, not unexpected
Navy just announced that the Bonhomme Richard, an amphibious assault ship that burned for days in San Diego this summer, will be scrapped. Rebuild/reconfiguration too pricey.https://t.co/H8Du5Pr6Is
— Geoff Ziezulewicz (@JournoGeoffZ) November 30, 2020
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Yikes! Original cost of the Wasp class ships (including Bonhomme Richard) was about $750 million each. Replacement with a new America class ship is estimated at $4 BILLION.
re: #75 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Yikes! Original cost of the Wasp class ships (including Bonhomme Richard) was about $750 million each. Replacement with a new America class ship is estimated at $4 BILLION.
The various technological updates since the mid-90’s covers the vast majority of the price jump
re: #73 Patricia Kayden
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re: #74 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
As I tweeted at a group of defense journalists while the fire continued to rage on day two “…I may not be a metallurgist, but I remember enough from High School science to know that prolonged exposure to extreme temperature will alter the physical properties of most metals…”
Haven’t we learned anything from the 9/11 Twoofers? Fire can’t melt steel!/////
Biden and Harris come out of the briefing: https://t.co/649jWP62a9 pic.twitter.com/9Or7FSjugJ
— skullsinthestars - Black lives matter (@drskyskull) November 30, 2020
re: #79 jaunte
I suspect there were some eye-openers.
Also: wonder what the briefers thought when their audience asked intelligent questions.
Me: trying to figure out why thylacines showed up in one of my dreams this morning.
Biden: wondering why intel briefers have startled look on their faces when he reads the material they put before them.
re: #60 Patricia Kayden
There’s absolutely no way that Bernie would have won. I’m so glad that Biden stepped up to the plate and that Blacks in South Carolina picked him in the primaries. We dodged a bullet since only Biden could win the general. This country just isn’t ready for a socialist president. Sorry Bernie Bros.
I wasn’t thinking for a second he could.
I was terrified when I said it that the leftists are going to keep repeating it, as well as to take their ball and go home for ‘22 and the ‘24 general.
And while leftism can’t win in most of the US, very few liberals can win if those idiots refuse to show, either. You can get the presidency with conservative crossover, SOMETIMES, but that very word “crossover” kind of guarantees that it only works when running for President.
I was hoping they’d shut up since the biggest deficit between Biden’s performance and a congressional candidate (though at least she still won) was the fault of Ilhan Omar, but no, they’re crowing about all the “conservative Dems” [read: liberals, not leftists] who couldn’t hold onto the lean-R districts they’d flipped in ‘18, instead.
re: #79 jaunte
Harris: What the actual fuck? Do you believe that crap?
Biden: It’s even worse than I thought.
Harris: You worried?
Biden: Nope. We got this.
You’re a complete fuck up? You’re a know nothing, incurious buffoon who exists to own the libs? You’re a racist shitheal? You only care about about yourself?
So many. So very many.
“Voters generally thought Trump had done a poor job of handling the pandemic, making it difficult to untangle the public health crisis from the economic downturn it caused.”#TrumpDeathToll273Khttps://t.co/VA64Pmv8LI
— Democratic Coalition (@TheDemCoalition) November 30, 2020
re: #35 DesertDenizen
Yup….one of the dumbest people I’ve ever met…. He and Weirs barged their way onto a junket for employers with the National Guard (denying two employers their spots), of course once they got to DC for free, they spent their time at the NRA HQ begging for dollars, rest of the time they were just drunken frat-boys. I did like telling Gowan that his current speaker Russell Pearce would, in fact get recalled by the voters because he was such a corrupt swine…of course he said it would never happen. Comedy gold.
re: #81 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
I suspect there were some eye-openers.
Also: wonder what the briefers thought when their audience asked intelligent questions.
is biden getting the one page briefing with all the pictures? //
Biden’s popular vote lead has grown to 6.3 million and 4%:
Biden 80,301,585 (51.1%)
Trump 73,978,678 (47.1%)
This is the 2nd biggest win margin over an incumbent since the year 1900.— Amy Siskind 🏳️🌈 (@Amy_Siskind) November 30, 2020
re: #80 Patricia Kayden
It wasn’t always so.
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Many societies are relatively unracist when minorities are an insignificant group but grow virulently racist when said groups become a significant part of the populace.
Africans, (Edit: many of whom were) international students were a tiny minority in the USSR. African Americans also had the benefit of being oppressed by the enemy, and the Soviet Union wanted to show the world how it was better than America.
So the two Republican candidates in the Georgia runoff election are calling for Georgia’s hard-right Republican secretary of state to resign because he declined a corrupt president’s request that he tamper with the election results?
Well, that sure makes clear what’s at stake. https://t.co/y6fhLdAVPL— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) November 30, 2020
By @tribelaw & @dorfonlaw: To this #SupremeCourt, with its extremely conservative majority, religious freedom trumps public health—even amid the #COVID plague. We also see unsettling ideas about privacy. Will we turn into Gilead? https://t.co/E6usrlmOQI @usatoday @usatodayopinion
— Jill Lawrence (@JillDLawrence) November 29, 2020
I believe the condition Morris sought relief from was known at the time as “mopey dick.” And the rest, as they say, is history. https://t.co/ZiKOssRhLH
— Seth Cotlar (@SethCotlar) November 30, 2020
re: #91 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
“Turn into” implies that we weren’t already there the moment #AmyCoathangerBarrett was seated. https://t.co/tkPvfKWPxY
— Chrysi Cat (no, Karen is STILL my sister!) (@chrysicat) November 30, 2020
re: #76 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
The new Americas are significantly larger than the older LHA/LHD classes at over 45,000 tonnes. They’re super-Panamax, able to transit the upgraded Panama Canal that previously limited the size of their predecessors and indeed most non-nuclear American warships like the Iowa battleships.
The Americas can and will deploy the F-35B giving the USMC strike/CAP capability off its own dedicated decks rather than having to rely on the USN’s tasking priorities for their fleet carriers.
In comparison the French nuclear carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, a full-capability CATOBAR carrier is a little smaller than the America-class ships and there’s only one of them whereas the intention is to build 11 Americas in total.
re: #89 aatharuv
Many societies are relatively unracist when minorities are an insignificant group but grow virulently racist when said groups become a significant part of the populace.
Africans, except for international students were a tiny minority in the USSR. African Americans also had the benefit of being oppressed by the enemy, and the Soviet Union wanted to show the world how it was better than America.
Yep. Black people in Russia are exotics, not minorities, so can be ridiculed and dismissed but aren’t considered a threat. Still, ask a lot of Russians, even liberal Russians, about Black Lives Matter and see what answers you get.
Racism was (and still is) the go-to whataboutery for Russian anti-Americanism: whatabout slavery, Jim Crow? So you got bizarre propaganda pieces by people who knew nothing about (and cared nothing about) American Blacks, showing some complete Stepin Fechit big-lipped grinning caricature not believing how well he got treated in the USSR compared to America.
The minorities that Russia actually persecutes are Muslim central Asians, mostly, who are the bulk of the undocumented workforce and main target of social panics by ethnic Russians. The Muslim population of Russia is growing substantially and the ethnic Russian percentage of the population is shrinking, which makes the panic worse. Orthodox Christianity in Russia is similar to white evangelical Christianity in the US: the majoritarian, social rather than religious majority that the bigots gravitate towards.
At the height of the Coronavirus pandemic here’s Florida Governor Ron #DeathSantis DeSantis today calling public health scientists “flat earthers”.
Dude is a menace to society… pic.twitter.com/3agh1FLMg6— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) November 30, 2020
re: #86 Egregious Philbin
And yet despite all that, and the tens of thousands of stolen dollars he had to pay back, he is still my State Senator, and won my county by about 20 points.
re: #88 jaunte
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“Less than two months remain in the Trump administration, and Senate Republicans are doing something not seen in a century — confirming judges and other nominees after their party lost the White House. That norm-breaking rush to get GOP-approved picks through could get tricky, though, if lawmakers continue missing time because of COVID-19,” Roll Call reports.
“With only one exception, post-election confirmations of judges nominated to lifetime appointments by a president whose party has lost the White House hasn’t happened since the election of 1896 when William McKinley was elected and the Senate confirmed Grover Cleveland’s picks.”
“During previous presidential election years, senators have invoked the so-called Thurmond rule, an unwritten agreement named after the late Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-SC) that calls for the chamber to stop approving circuit court nominations in the few months before Election Day.”
the problem with ‘unwritten agreements’ is when only one side respects them
I forget, was Thurmond a D? oh wait, no. it says R-SC. hmmm
re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter
Russia is a white supremacist society, probably much worse under Putin.
No, Russia is specifically a Russian-supremacist society where the “Russian Soul” and Russian identity in general is considered transcendent and exceptional. In fact, Russians are taught to look down on other “white” ethnicities as identity politics is a crucial platform under Putin’s regime.
re: #99 Florida Panhandler
No, Russia is specifically a Russian-supremacist society where the “Russian Soul” and Russian identity in general is considered transcendent and exceptional. In fact, Russians are taught to look down on other “white” ethnicities as identity politics is a crucial platform under Putin’s regime.
I think this gets overlooked when some of us think about Putin’s goals (in terms of geostrategy).
re: #101 Barefoot Grin
I think this gets overlooked when some of us think about Putin’s goals (in terms of geostrategy).
In Europe, generally. If you see pro-Brexit Brits screaming about Polish plumbers, that’s ethnic bigotry too. It’s just targeted at different people.
Putin is a statist, at heart: he believes in the primacy of the Russian state more than any Russian people (basically because he is the State). So there are significant ethic supremacist/neo-Nazi movements in Russia, but Putin tries to keep a lid on it. Not because he’s against racism, since he doesn’t appear to give a shit, but he correctly realizes that having an independent fascist movement is a threat to his own power base.
He came in by ambulance short of breath. Already on CPAP by EMS. Still, he was clearly working hard to breathe. He looked sick. Uncomfortable. Scared.
As we got him over to the gurney and his shirt off to switch a a hospital gown, we all noticed the number of Nazi tattoos. 1/— Taylor Nichols, MD (@tnicholsmd) November 30, 2020
Fucking goddamned Nazis and know nothing GOPers who ignore the pandemic, refuse to face facts and reality, and by their actions put those who heal in harm’s way.
read the whole thing (a tweet thread).
Fucking hell.
Psalms 107:1 – “Give thanks to the LORD, for He is good; His love endures forever.”
— Senator Kelly Loeffler (@SenatorLoeffler) November 29, 2020
re: #83 Chrysicat
I wasn’t thinking for a second he could.
I was terrified when I said it that the leftists are going to keep repeating it, as well as to take their ball and go home for ‘22 and the ‘24 general.
And while leftism can’t win in most of the US, very few liberals can win if those idiots refuse to show, either. You can get the presidency with conservative crossover, SOMETIMES, but that very word “crossover” kind of guarantees that it only works when running for President.
I was hoping they’d shut up since the biggest deficit between Biden’s performance and a congressional candidate (though at least she still won) was the fault of Ilhan Omar, but no, they’re crowing about all the “conservative Dems” [read: liberals, not leftists] who couldn’t hold onto the lean-R districts they’d flipped in ‘18, instead.
Rose Twitter and Berniacs are basically making it clearer than ever before that they consider the Dem party their real enemy first and foremost, and they’ll turn around and claim that Liberals are the ones that hate Progressives so much that they’ll love all the conservatives just to spite leftists. You know…ignoring the embrace of fucking morons like Rogan and the like who actively shit on any progress just because he likes weed and gave some lip service to Bernie before embracing his Trump vote per fucking usual.
No game days. No bars. The pandemic is forcing some men to realize they need deeper friendships. https://t.co/S1293ByGPI
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) November 30, 2020
I can already hear the Right: “The Plandemic is a Leftist plot against masculinity, and to turn men into femboys and soyboys.”
re: #107 DodgerFan1988
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“Soon, every man will consider the feeling of others.”
re: #103 lawhawk
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Fucking goddamned Nazis and know nothing GOPers who ignore the pandemic, refuse to face facts and reality, and by their actions put those who heal in harm’s way.
read the whole thing (a tweet thread).
imo this is the key moment right here ‘don’t let me die, doc’:
“Don’t let me die, doc.” He said breathlessly as the RT switched him over from CPAP by EMS to our mask and machine.
I reassured him that we were all going to work hard to take care of him and keep him alive as best as we could. 3/— Taylor Nichols, MD (@tnicholsmd) November 30, 2020
i will ignore the advice and the rules
i will fuck up my life and those around me
i will hate whoever i want and be proud of it
and if i’m facing death it’s your responsibility to save me
after which, when i find out who you are, i will still likely fucking hate you
NEW - A metal monolith identical to the one recently found in #Utah has just appeared on a hillside in Romania. pic.twitter.com/kR6Kkg23xr
re: #103 lawhawk
Whine much?
— t.s. (@Indyburghfan) November 30, 2020
Here’s a virus spreader for your block list.
re: #103 lawhawk
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read the whole thing (a tweet thread).
And like moths to a flame, the shitheads and deniers show up in the comments.
This is what’s going on down the road from me. Looking at comments, it’s clear that this is a planned operation rolling out across the country and must be financed by some deep pockets.
Living free and dying in my home state pic.twitter.com/bSDKBVLfia
— Virginia Heffernan (@page88) November 30, 2020
When you see these videos of exhausted ER doctors and nurses pleading with people to wear a mask and behave safely it’s hard not to wonder how much damage Trump did when he claimed doctors were profiting from more covid cases. And that’s on top of his other lethal decisions.
— Schooley (@Rschooley) November 30, 2020
My Uncle Ben…by marriage…science fiction icon, author, adventure lover, story teller, futurist, and my son’s namesake, Ben Bova, has passed away this morning from COVID-19 related pneumonia and a stroke. Needless to say, he will be missed terribly by us and the the world. pic.twitter.com/lbuvRLm5V8
— Kathryn Brusco (@KathrynBruscoBk) November 29, 2020
RIP, Ben Bova.
re: #29 jaunte
I’m glad they’re figuring it out now, but how did they not notice over the past four years that this is the way Trump has always been?
They are scrambling to find excuses.
They might have disliked his style but had no problem with his policies.
re: #103 lawhawk
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read the whole thing (a tweet thread).
p.s., when the mantras fail
For the first time, I recognize that I hesitated, ambivalent.
The pandemic has worn on me, and my mantra isn’t having the same impact in the moment. All this time soldiering on against the headwinds, gladiators in the pit.
And I realize that maybe I’m not ok. End/— Taylor Nichols, MD (@tnicholsmd) November 30, 2020
this is just a little like the last couple of miles of a particularly grueling marathon or ultra.
(no of course it’s not the same, certainly not the same consequences - just my frame of reference).
all the training, planning, practice for this moment of doubt fueled by agony.
hope is draining, hell, it’s long gone.
fatigue, exhaustion (mental and physical), and oh the intense unrelenting pain.
and that mantra you’ve chanted to yourself for months is suddenly meaningless and worth shit.
now you dig deep and look for your true mantra.
you look for the spark, the core, the essence of who you are.
and you move forward.
we don’t need to quit. We “want” to quit, to be at ease.
When you get here, learn to rest, not to quit.
There is no quitting. What we came for is moving forward.
It is everything.
re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
The Supreme Court sounded skeptical during oral arguments that President Trump could exclude people living in the U.S. illegally from the 2020 census. The once-a-decade population count is used to allot seats in the House of Representatives.
How about counting illegals as 3/5th?
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Don’t decorate a palm tree. Never seen one decorated that wasn’t a sea of laughs and embarrassments…
I’ve seen plenty of Hanukkah trees over the years, and my family had one years ago, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that!Should be fine so long as the celebratory tree of choice isn’t a palm tree… 😄 pic.twitter.com/2Ky1EB9Bxc
— Arch (@Arch_LGF) November 30, 2020
re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter
Russia is a white supremacist society, probably much worse under Putin.
And a theocratic one at that, he has let the Orthodox Church become the official voice of “Public Decency” (homophobia, patriarchy and xenophobia)
re: #120 (((Archangel1)))
Never decorate a palm tree. Never seen one decorated that wasn’t a sea of laughs and embarrassments…
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Is that the variety of tree known as the “Rosy Palm”??
re: #112 Barefoot Grin
And like moths to a flame, the shitheads and deniers show up in the comments.
This is what’s going on down the road from me. Looking at comments, it’s clear that this is a planned operation rolling out across the country and must be financed by some deep pockets.
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Living free and dying in my home state pic.twitter.com/bSDKBVLfia
— Virginia Heffernan (@page88) November 30, 2020
re: #104 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Fucking hell.
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and the bad ones use the lord
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re: #120 (((Archangel1)))
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re: #122 Jay C
LOL
Is that the variety of tree known as the “Rosy Palm”??
Could be worse, could be one of those Hairy Palms you keep hearing about. I hear those are even more self-indulgent.
Oh dear, these are quite good. 😂 pic.twitter.com/g8VUYzMyW3
— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) November 30, 2020
re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
This has always seemed destined to fail miserably.
If Biden forces Republican senators to read mean tweets at a hearing this will all be worth it
— Aaron (@BobbyBigWheel) November 30, 2020
Anyway, OMB is the perfect job for someone like her and she’s going to do well despite the freak outs of nobodies on Twitter.
— Four Seasons Total Manscaping 🏳️🌈🙄 (@SJGrunewald) November 30, 2020
trump is trying to get 450 miles of new wall construction built during his term.
450 by itself is pathetic based on his 2016 boasts let alone ‘i know construction’
forget for the moment the lack of planning, environmental impact studies, and all the eminent domain lawsuits
it’s worse in that only 25 miles of that 450 is in areas that previously had no barrier.. and some of those 25 miles are in areas that absolutely did not need a wall because no one ever crossed there due to the natural terrain barriers and obstacles.
the rest of the 425 already had fences, crumbling walls or vehicle barriers
4 years. 25 miles.
loser
but surely, they skimmed a lot of the $
re: #110 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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re: #98 dangerman
I forget, was Thurmond a D? oh wait, no. it says R-SC. hmmm
Depends what year you’re looking at….
re: #131 dangerman
trump is trying to get 450 miles of new wall construction built during his term.
450 by itself is pathetic based on his 2016 boasts let alone ‘i know construction’
forget for the moment the lack of planning, environmental impact studies, and all the eminent domain lawsuits
it’s worse in that only 25 miles of that 450 is in areas that previously had no barrier.. and some of those 25 miles are in areas that absolutely did not need a wall because no one ever crossed there due to the natural terrain barriers and obstacles.
the rest of the 425 already had fences, crumbling walls or vehicle barriers
4 years. 25 miles.
loser
but surely, they skimmed a lot of the $
Trump’s trying to conflate new wall and rebuilding existing barriers. For starters, the new barrier is no more effective at stopping people than the old one as witnessed by the ease with which one can scale, cut, or go under the barriers.
It’s all about appearances, and the new wall is an ugly scar on the landscape that does nothing to address all those who overstay visas - about half of the undocumented persons status issues.
The barrier was built by illegally taking funds appropriated for other purposes and left the military with billions less at its disposal for infrastructure repairs.
But to build 25 miles in four years? That’s pathetic.
Crossings were down in 2020 because of the pandemic - coming to the US was far more dangerous than what was going on in Mexico or Latin America.
And October 2020 was the highest number of crossings in more than a year.
The numbers we’re going to see soon will be stunning.
— Robert Reich (@RBReich) November 30, 2020
re: #114 jaunte
Yesterday, the Sun was claiming that David Prowse died from Covid-19, but I didn’t see any other source at the time to back it up.
re: #132 danarchy
They call it a monolith, I call it a piece of sheet metal stuck in the ground incredibly easy to copycat. I expect to see many more, and then I expect Ancient Aliens to do an episode about them sure to mention ley lines or some such BS.
Sorry y’all, we needed it back. https://t.co/tuOKj1igF7 pic.twitter.com/d3SOF4GeMS
— Southwest Airlines (@SouthwestAir) November 29, 2020
re: #133 sagehen
Depends what year you’re looking at….
he was an R in ‘68 - about when the unwritten rule was used (by him)
re: #138 William Lewis
I have seen “complications from covid” and that he was suffering from Alzheimer’s in the obit at tor.com.
I saw it on one of the news Channels and Mark Hammil tweeted about it:
So sad to hear David Prowse has passed. He was a kind man & much more than Darth Vader. Actor-Husband-Father-Member of the Order of the British Empire-3 time British Weightlifting Champion & Safety Icon the Green Cross Code Man. He loved his fans as much as they loved him. #RIP pic.twitter.com/VbDrGu6iBz
— Mark Hamill (@HamillHimself) November 29, 2020
Edit: Nevermind, you are specifically referring to cause of death, got it.
Mark Kelly to be sworn in as senator on Wednesday https://t.co/cAN7cN83MQ pic.twitter.com/dmu3yjwUHX
— The Hill (@thehill) November 30, 2020
The United States Congress Is Set to Do Something…Good and Useful? On a Bipartisan Basis?
The legislature is set to tackle money laundering. Donald Trump has, of course, issued a veto threat, though he says it’s about keeping Confederate names on military bases.
by Charlie Pierce
Worth a read, if you can! This is included in the defense authorization bill, and Pierce wonders if THIS is the real reason Trump wants to veto the bill. Wonder if they could over-ride his veto?
re: #110 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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It occurred to me that it might be the same one. The Utah “monolith” disappeared over the weekend.
How cool a prank would that be?
For the science fiction fans here, 2020 has claimed another one: Ben Bova has died, age 88. He is perhaps best remembered as the editor of Analog after the long run of John W Campbell.
My Uncle Ben…by marriage…science fiction icon, author, adventure lover, story teller, futurist, and my son’s namesake, Ben Bova, has passed away this morning from COVID-19 related pneumonia and a stroke. Needless to say, he will be missed terribly by us and the the world. pic.twitter.com/lbuvRLm5V8
— Kathryn Brusco (@KathrynBruscoBk) November 29, 2020
re: #137 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Kudos to Southwest’s online mediabees for this.
re: #143 retired cynic
The United States Congress Is Set to Do Something…Good and Useful? On a Bipartisan Basis?
The legislature is set to tackle money laundering. Donald Trump has, of course, issued a veto threat, though he says it’s about keeping Confederate names on military bases.
by Charlie PierceWorth a read, if you can! This is included in the defense authorization bill, and Pierce wonders if THIS is the real reason Trump wants to veto the bill. Wonder if they could over-ride his veto?
It passed both Houses with veto proof majorities - 295-125 in the House and 86-14 in the Senate. Trump has previously caved any time a bill was passed with veto proof majorities (remember at the dawn of time when he signed the bill on Russian sanctions?), so maybe he will back down if whatever comes out of the conference gets veto proof majorities again. Then again, he might figure he has nothing to lose and goes into full “watch the world burn” mode?
Because you don’t translate and edit a few billion documents across multiple languages without developing the occasional linguistic pet peeve… ;)
I’m sorry Gus, buddy, but this is wrong. Just wrong.it should be “some guy with a beard WHO moved to Brooklyn,” not “some guy with a beard that moved to Brooklyn”. 😜
— Arch (@Arch_LGF) November 30, 2020
re: #148 (((Archangel1)))
Because you don’t translate and edit a few billion documents across multiple languages without developing the occasional linguistic pet peeve… ;)
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(ducks)
re: #144 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
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It occurred to me that it might be the same one. The Utah “monolith” disappeared over the weekend.
How cool a prank would that be?
I’m not saying it’s aliens, but …
re: #149 KGxvi
Isn’t it whom?
(ducks)
Point of order.
Guys aren’t moving from NJ to Brooklyn. It’s the other way (as one of those people).
re: #148 (((Archangel1)))
Because you don’t translate and edit a few billion documents across multiple languages and not develop the occasional linguistic pet peeve… ;)
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re: #144 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
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It occurred to me that it might be the same one. The Utah “monolith” disappeared over the weekend.
How cool a prank would that be?
Alas, it is apparently not the same one but an inferior copy (note visible buff marks). We’ll probably start seeing them pop up all over the world. On the other hand, if the Chang lander finds one on the Moon (as suggested by a commenter) I will recant everything I have said about Ufools over the last 30 years.
Re: David Prowse
Not sure it if it was Covid, but he has had ongoing health issues for years now so I’d say it was more likely natural causes.
re: #151 lawhawk
Point of order.
Guys aren’t moving from NJ to Brooklyn. It’s the other way (as one of those people).
ok, so is it lawwho or lawwhom?
re: #154 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Alas, it is apparently not the same one but an inferior copy (note visible buff marks). We’ll probably start seeing them pop up all over the world. On the other hand, if the Chang lander finds one on the Moon (as suggested by a commenter) I will recant everything I have said about Ufools over the last 30 years.
nope
that they would turn out to be ‘right’ doesn’t mean they were correct in how they arrived at their conclusions.
otherwise it’s just darts
re: #144 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Has it been checked for Widmanstätten patterns?
A key failure in Alex Azar’s dreadful legacy as Trump’s health secretary:
“The HHS Protect data are poor quality, inconsistent with state reports, and the analysis is slipshod… And the pressure on hospitals [from COVID-19] is through the roof.”https://t.co/5azogNS731— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) November 30, 2020
She’s special counsel to the Thomas More Society, an organization of far right anti-abortion crackpots who have a history of pushing creationism among other “culture war” issues. They represented a defendant in the well-known Kitzmiller “intelligent design” case. https://t.co/4cbl4nFFwF
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 30, 2020
They were also involved in the infamous Terri Schiavo case, and defended fraudster David Daleiden, the right wing operative who created a series of deceptively edited videos attacking Planned Parenthood with ludicrous, dishonest claims that they “sell baby parts.”
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 30, 2020
Admittedly, asking a Senator if the guy who was just elected President is the guy who was just elected President is the very definition of a “gotcha” question. https://t.co/KuQ9izkX5k
— Frank Conniff (@FrankConniff) November 30, 2020
re: #163 Charles Johnson
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Stephen and I are elated to announce the arrival of our beautiful daughter Mackenzie Jay Miller who was born on November 19, 2020. She has already captured our hearts, enraptured our souls, and filled us joy beyond measure. pic.twitter.com/mPfZwZCRgh
— Katie Rose Miller (@katierosemiller) November 30, 2020
“My family and colleagues told me that when I have kids I’ll think about the separations differently. But I don’t think so.” -@katierosemiller
— Ann_dump_trump (@Ann70236467) November 30, 2020
Unbelievable! Flynn’s pardon absolves him from all potential crimes he committed against the United States. This is despicable that Trump has the power to do this so that he can protect himself and the Kremlin. Coverup https://t.co/N4Lc9ht7Qr
— Olga Lautman (@OlgaNYC1211) November 30, 2020
re: #168 jaunte
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“any and all possible offenses arising from the facts set forth … or that might arise, or be charged, claimed or asserted”
How is that legal?
re: #168 jaunte
I hope that is challenged. Sounds a little far reaching.
re: #170 jaunte
“any and all possible offenses arising from the facts set forth … or that might arise, or be charged, claimed or asserted”
How is that legal?
I don’t see how the pardon Nixon’s got from Ford was any more far reaching than this one is honestly…
re: #172 jaunte
I thought a pardon had to specify a crime.
No they don’t, once again see Ford’s pardon of Nixon…
fordlibrarymuseum.gov
“Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9,1974.”
re: #170 jaunte
“any and all possible offenses arising from the facts set forth … or that might arise, or be charged, claimed or asserted”
How is that legal?
Presidential pardon powers are unlimited. He can do this. The problem is as Barr asserted at his confirmation hearing that to give Flynn a pardon would be furthering Trump’s crime - the coverup of said crimes. This opens the door to prosecuting them on those grounds. The coverup is a fresh set of crimes. The pardon was coordinated with Flynn and his criminal conduct to cover up Trump’s ongoing malfeasance.
re: #174 lawhawk
Presidential pardon powers are unlimited.
Yet another problem with the Constitution, a document increasingly archaic.
re: #167 Patricia Kayden
Great!
Now let’s take it from them and put it in a cage and see how they feel about it.
re: #173 jamesfirecat
I don’t see how the pardon Nixon’s got from Ford was any more far reaching than this one is honestly…
No they don’t, once again see Ford’s pardon of Nixon…
fordlibrarymuseum.gov“Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9,1974.”
regarding the open ended and non specificity of nixon’s pardon
the thing about nixon’s pardon
the only thing
is that no one challenged it
that doesnt make it law, binding, precedent, inviolable or anything else
re: #174 lawhawk
Presidential pardon powers are unlimited. He can do this. The problem is as Barr asserted at his confirmation hearing that to give Flynn a pardon would be furthering Trump’s crime - the coverup of said crimes. This opens the door to prosecuting them on those grounds. The coverup is a fresh set of crimes. The pardon was coordinated with Flynn and his criminal conduct to cover up Trump’s ongoing malfeasance.
Glenn Kirschner seems to think this isn’t the case and that if a pardon was issued corruptly in the first place they can be challenged. Even Barr seems to think that FFVCS can be charged with obstruction of justice for doing so after the fact.
re: #148 (((Archangel1)))
Because you don’t translate and edit a few billion documents across multiple languages without developing the occasional linguistic pet peeve… ;)
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No, he had it right. The beard moved to Brooklyn. The guy still lives in NJ.
re: #178 Jack Burton
Glenn Kirschner seems to think this isn’t the case and that if a pardon was issued corruptly in the first place they can be challenged. Even Barr seems to think that FFVCS can be charged with obstruction of justice for doing so after the fact.
It’s going to require someone to challenge it.
re: #177 dangerman
Who has the power to even litigate the claim. In other words, who has standing?
We’ve seen the problem with this in trying to enforce the Emoluments Clause against Trump despite him openly profiting from it every trip to one of his businesses at taxpayer expense? Congress can’t? Individuals? States? Who exactly would have standing?
That’s not clear, because no one ever thought you’d have someone as boldly corrupt and criminal as Trump to pursue this line of criminality, let alone do so with the complicity of the entire political party backing him.
re: #175 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Yet another problem with the Constitution, a document increasingly archaic.
Not really. The idea behind the pardon power being invested in one person is that it can be used to right the wrongs of the judicial system (think wrongful conviction or someone being railroaded or a false confession under duress). A lot of states require agreement by the supreme court (or at least CJ) or the AG and that makes it harder to correct things when the system goes very wrong.
Yes, it can be used for corrupt purposes, but it is ultimately meant to be a check on the court system and an overzealous prosecution.
re: #181 lawhawk
Who has the power to even litigate the claim. In other words, who has standing?
We’ve seen the problem with this in trying to enforce the Emoluments Clause against Trump despite him openly profiting from it every trip to one of his businesses at taxpayer expense? Congress can’t? Individuals? States? Who exactly would have standing?
That’s not clear, because no one ever thought you’d have someone as boldly corrupt and criminal as Trump to pursue this line of criminality, let alone do so with the complicity of the entire political party backing him.
Would the golf trips be included in the emoluments clause? It seems to specifically mention foreign states and monarchies. Seems to me the whole golf thing is just garden variety graft.
re: #154 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Alas, it is apparently not the same one but an inferior copy (note visible buff marks). We’ll probably start seeing them pop up all over the world. On the other hand, if the Chang lander finds one on the Moon (as suggested by a commenter) I will recant everything I have said about Ufools over the last 30 years.
I want them to start showing up in the center of crop circles.
re: #181 lawhawk
Who has the power to even litigate the claim. In other words, who has standing?
We’ve seen the problem with this in trying to enforce the Emoluments Clause against Trump despite him openly profiting from it every trip to one of his businesses at taxpayer expense? Congress can’t? Individuals? States? Who exactly would have standing?
That’s not clear, because no one ever thought you’d have someone as boldly corrupt and criminal as Trump to pursue this line of criminality, let alone do so with the complicity of the entire political party backing him.
You would need an overzealous US Attorney to file charges despite the pardon in order to challenge the pardon.
As for the Emoluments Clause, the answer there was always impeachment. The failure to impeach was essentially Congress granting consent under the clause.
I am no expert but this pardon looks written to try to establish a precedent for blanket pardons. It pardons all offenses within the jurisdiction of the Special Counsel, something Trump may hope to do for himself and the lawbreakers he surrounds himself with. Nice try won’t work. https://t.co/R5i7sYWs7G
— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) November 30, 2020
re: #183 danarchy
Would the golf trips be included in the emoluments clause? It seems to specifically mention foreign states and monarchies. Seems to me the whole golf thing is just garden variety graft.
There’s two emoluments clauses:
Article I, Section 9:
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
Article II, Section 1:
The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be encreased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.
The first question is whether his continued use and profiting from his various businesses/properties violated the Article II clause. And the second is whether foreign nationals/governments were using his properties to curry favor with his administration.
re: #186 jaunte
Am I reading this right? Does the Trump pardon cover crimes Flynn MAY commit in the future in relation to the existing charges?
re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg
he’s gonna be 00F, licensed to crime…
re: #181 lawhawk
Who has the power to even litigate the claim. In other words, who has standing?
We’ve seen the problem with this in trying to enforce the Emoluments Clause against Trump despite him openly profiting from it every trip to one of his businesses at taxpayer expense? Congress can’t? Individuals? States? Who exactly would have standing?
That’s not clear, because no one ever thought you’d have someone as boldly corrupt and criminal as Trump to pursue this line of criminality, let alone do so with the complicity of the entire political party backing him.
my guess is someone would have to try and indict him on something federal.
(ianal)
re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg
Am I reading this right? Does the Trump pardon cover crimes Flynn MAY commit in the future in relation to the existing charges?
No, covers potential charges that weren’t brought that could have been brought. At least that’s my reading of it.
I’m curious what Katyal’s argument would be for why this wouldn’t be an effective pardon.
re: #109 dangerman
Glad I’m not a doctor or EMT, because my reaction would be to walk away and let the thoughts and prayers of his fellow klukkers save him. Actually, let nature do its thing.
re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg
Am I reading this right? Does the Trump pardon cover crimes Flynn MAY commit in the future in relation to the existing charges?
I think it said any future findings that would arise from the study of the things that he did during this time period.
That’s the sensible way to read it, sort of like how Nixon was pardoned for all crimes he committed during the time period he was president.
If Donald Trump thinks he can give away pardons for crimes that people haven’t committed yet… I don’t think even his stacked supreme court will go along with that.
re: #185 KGxvi
You would need an overzealous US Attorney to file charges despite the pardon in order to challenge the pardon.
As for the Emoluments Clause, the answer there was always impeachment. The failure to impeach was essentially Congress granting consent under the clause.
The constitution has its issues (mainly the Senate and electoral college), but no written document can cope with the kind of bad faith and institutional corruption that Republicans now embody.
re: #194 EPR-radar
The constitution has its issues (mainly the Senate and electoral college), but no written document can cope with the kind of bad faith and institutional corruption that Republicans now embody.
This is very true. Our institutions are only as strong as the people who occupy them at the moment.
The Senate itself isn’t even necessarily a problem, it’s the Senate rules that currently require more than a majority to pass bills and the concentration of power in the office of majority leader.
The electoral college is an antiquated indirect democratic tool that needs to be sealed in a glass tube within the Smithsonian and never brought up again other than as an answer on Jeopardy
re: #133 sagehen
I forget, was Thurmond a D? oh wait, no. it says R-SC. hmmm
Depends what year you’re looking at….
Thurmond fathered a black baby, which was ignored by SC and the media.
Fathering a black baby was a slur used against McCain’s presidential campaign, and probably cost him the SC primary.
re: #196 BeenHereAwhile
Thurmond fathered a black baby, which was ignored by SC and the media.
Fathering a black baby was a slur used against McCain’s presidential campaign, and probably cost him the SC primary.
That such a thing is still a “slur” speaks volumes of how far we have to go still.
She pops up an awful lot.
Maria Butina’s Gun Group Funded Ex-Sheriff David Clarke’s Russia Trip https://t.co/iNAu8LSONN
— Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) November 30, 2020
re: #180 Belafon
It’s going to require someone to challenge it.
“The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”
I am no expert but this pardon looks written to try to establish a precedent for blanket pardons. It pardons all offenses within the jurisdiction of the Special Counsel, something Trump may hope to do for himself and the lawbreakers he surrounds himself with. Nice try won’t work. https://t.co/R5i7sYWs7G
— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) November 30, 2020
He now has no Fifth Amendment protection at all. I hope there is an investigation into Russian involvement with Trump and others, and Flynn is questioned under oath.
— Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) November 30, 2020
re: #199 Eventual Carrion
“The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”
Someone needs to ask twitter lawyers about that.
anything that Mueller did *or could have* investigated
This is the part I don’t get. If Flynn loses Fifth Amendment protection by accepting the pardon, how can he lose it for unspecified anything Mueller could have investigated?
re: #202 Belafon
Someone needs to ask twitter lawyers about that.
Though reading it a few times, it means that Trump can’t pardon anyone for something they have been impeached for. So he won’t be able to pardon himself for that.
re: #203 jaunte
This is the part I don’t get. If Flynn loses Fifth Amendment protection by accepting the pardon, how can he lose it for unspecified anything Mueller could have investigated?
Well then he has to say the truth about anything he’s asked, or he gets hit with a brand new case of perjury.
Don’t lie to people in court.
Shouldn’t be too hard.
re: #206 jamesfirecat
I see memory problems in his future.
re: #207 jaunte
I see memory problems in his future.
Start with some simple questions, if he says he doesn’t recall provide him with the proof you found that could have previously been used to charge him proving that he is either committing perjury or suffering from such severe brain damage/memory loss that he is no longer competent and should be reminded to the care of someone else.
re: #186 jaunte
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To start with, parallel to the C. XIX—XX German Empire.
But with a distinct risk of devolving into the late Holy Roman where the constituent states become near-independent— Chrysi Cat (no, Karen is STILL my sister!) (@chrysicat) November 30, 2020
re: #205 Belafon
Though reading it a few times, it means that Trump can’t pardon anyone for something they have been impeached for. So he won’t be able to pardon himself for that.
It means the pardon power can’t be used to short circuit an impeachment trial in the Senate. It can be used to absolve someone of the legal liability that they could face separate from impeachment.
Example: Random District Court Judge (RDCJ) gets audited by the IRS, they find that his committed tax fraud, in part because he took a bribe. Information and evidence is referred to the House Judiciary Committee. They go through the process and: RDCJ is impeached by the House, convicted by the Senate and removed from the bench. RDCJ could still face legal liability. The president decides, for whatever reason, that RDCJ shouldn’t have to go to prison, so he pardons RDCJ and the DOJ can’t go after him for tax fraud or bribery because he’s been pardoned.
If as a nation we are sclerotic in making changes that are needed, we are in a down-hill trajectory.
With half the country willing to give Trump dictatorial power, we are indeed seeing what happens to a democratic republic after 250 years.
Remember, we are the oldest of such human political devices.
Many nations turn over after a much shorter life.
IMO it remains to be seen how long a democratic republic can last when a substantial portion of the citizens want a theocracy. The two ways of governing are not compatible.
And Trump has shown how a malicious fool can manipulate those who are so afraid of the future that they want to turn back the clock by centuries.
re: #202 Belafon
Someone needs to ask twitter lawyers about that.
Yeah, I saw that line and thought it might be something. But not sure what all Flynn is charged with had anything to do with what tRump was impeached for. Flynn was more Russian bribery and collusion I think.
What Trump has done and is doing is far, far worse than anything Nixon did.
Trump is trying to undo a century of building a more responsible and fair government.
Not since Lincoln has a President been so bold in exercising raw power. Maybe FDR, but his effect was part of a larger political movement dealing with industrialization and the effects of such.
re: #210 KGxvi
It means the pardon power can’t be used to short circuit an impeachment trial in the Senate. It can be used to absolve someone of the legal liability that they could face separate from impeachment.
Example: Random District Court Judge (RDCJ) gets audited by the IRS, they find that his committed tax fraud, in part because he took a bribe. Information and evidence is referred to the House Judiciary Committee. They go through the process and: RDCJ is impeached by the House, convicted by the Senate and removed from the bench. RDCJ could still face legal liability. The president decides, for whatever reason, that RDCJ shouldn’t have to go to prison, so he pardons RDCJ and the DOJ can’t go after him for tax fraud or bribery because he’s been pardoned.
Or be like Trump’s sister, Maryanne:
On February 1, 2019, four legal professionals, who had filed complaints against Judge Barry in October 2018, stemming from the allegations made in The New York Times, were notified by the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit that an investigation into judicial misconduct by Barry had been launched, in regard to her alleged participation in fraudulent tax and financial transactions. Ten days later, Barry, a senior inactive judge at the time, announced her retirement from the bench, effectively ending the investigation.
re: #213 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
What Trump has done and is doing is far, far worse than anything Nixon did.
Trump is trying to undo a century of building a more responsible and fair government.
Not since Lincoln has a President been so bold in exercising raw power. Maybe FDR, but his effect was part of a larger political movement dealing with industrialization and the effects of such.
And he’s not even doing it because he believes in anything. He’s doing it because he believes in nothing but himself.
re: #103 lawhawk
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read the whole thing (a tweet thread).
Master Race fucking snowflake… he should have just shrugged it off…
Arizona earlier today. Now…
New: Wisconsin Governor has certified the state’s election results. “I want to thank our clerks, election administrators, and poll workers across our state for working tirelessly to ensure we had a safe, fair, and efficient election,” said @GovEvers in a statement.
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) November 30, 2020
re: #211 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Remember, we are the oldest of such human political devices.
Britain has been, in constitutional terms, governed by a democratically-elected Parliament since at least 1688. The weirdly ahistorical figure you Americans make King George III out to be, simultaneously an autocratic tyrant mastermind and at the same time a deranged madman and ajudge him responsible for all the supposed ills heaped upon the nascent American colonies was a ruler who had in reality little or no political power and only limited powers of patronage, in fact much less than the first Constitutional Presidency of the United States since that property-owners wishlist effectively gave the officeholders of the Executive the powers of an elected autocrat.
I wonder how many Americans know who was actually Prime Minister in Britain in 1776? (Answer, Lord North, the man who oversaw the 1773 Tea Acts legislation that was one of the sparks for the First Slaveholders Treasonous Rebellion.)
There are other representative political assemblies that could claim to be older than Britain’s Parliament, Iceland’s Althing springs to mind. American exceptionalism is, like many things American, only exceptional in American eyes and American history classrooms.
What. The. Fuck. I mean, bye bye asshole but there’s a PANDEMIC going on.
Breaking: Atlas has resigned pic.twitter.com/KN3Xi6LBOW
— ReefPilot🇺🇸🛩👨✈️🤙 (@reefpilot) December 1, 2020
re: #218 Nojay UK
Britain has been, in constitutional terms, governed by a democratically-elected Parliament since at least 1688. The weirdly ahistorical figure you Americans make King George III out to be, simultaneously an autocratic tyrant mastermind and at the same time a deranged madman and ajudge him responsible for all the supposed ills heaped upon the nascent American colonies was a ruler who had in reality little or no political power and only limited powers of patronage, in fact much less than the first Constitutional Presidency of the United States since that property-owners wishlist effectively gave the officeholders of the Executive the powers of an elected autocrat.
I wonder how many Americans know who was actually Prime Minister in Britain in 1776? (Answer, Lord North, the man who oversaw the 1773 Tea Acts legislation that was one of the sparks for the First Slaveholders Treasonous Rebellion.)
There are other representative political assemblies that could claim to be older than Britain’s Parliament, Iceland’s Althing springs to mind. American exceptionalism is, like many things American, only exceptional in American eyes and American history classrooms.
The funny thing is, the American Revolution likely would have been avoided if they simply gave the colonies seats in the House of Commons. There would have inevitably been a fight over slavery still, so it might not have worked anyway, but still
re: #218 Nojay UK
… There are other representative political assemblies that could claim to be older than Britain’s Parliament, Iceland’s Althing springs to mind. American exceptionalism is, like many things American, only exceptional in American eyes and American history classrooms.
Thank you for continuing to remind us!
re: #220 KGxvi
The funny thing is, the American Revolution likely would have been avoided if they simply gave the colonies seats in the House of Commons. There would have inevitably been a fight over slavery still, so it might not have worked anyway, but still
“Taxation without representation” was a legit beef the US colonies had vs. Great Britain.
Certainly much more legit than the greater support for slavery in the US colonies.
re: #219 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
What. The. Fuck. I mean, bye bye asshole but there’s a PANDEMIC going on.
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“I worked hard with a singular focus — to save lives and help Americans through this pandemic,” wrote Atlas in his statement, defending his work by saying that he “always relied on the latest science and evidence, without any political consideration or influence” and thanking Trump for “the honor and privilege to serve on behalf of the American people.”
The world leaders who are always calling Trump to marvel at the way he’s handling Covid and are now telling him the election was stolen from him just sent me a group text saying they can’t believe he’s still falling for their pranks.
— Jack Shafer (@jackshafer) November 29, 2020
It’s time for republicans to except this election is over. They are hurting their own constituents. Time to move on. Isn’t that right @JohnCornyn #PresidentBiden https://t.co/IJD7l0yVof
— April in TX (@BGHeaven) December 1, 2020
re: #219 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
What. The. Fuck. I mean, bye bye asshole but there’s a PANDEMIC going on.
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He’s killed enough people.
Losing GA. Better than sex.
I need a cigarette now… https://t.co/kJkvaz6box
— Federico Chispas (@dfsparks) December 1, 2020
re: #219 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
What. The. Fuck. I mean, bye bye asshole but there’s a PANDEMIC going on.
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I’m told Atlas turned his resignation letter in to President Trump today. As a special government employee, he had a limited 130-day window where he could be in this role that was coming to a close.
— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) December 1, 2020
re: #227 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Losing GA. Better than sex.
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Don’t get happy. They can say all this bullshit now, but every one of those Confederate Battle Flag waving, Trump worshiping, racist asshats will be voting on Jan 5. I guarantee it. Everyone on our side that can vote in that election must, as if the fate of the country depends on it. Because it pretty much does.
re: #218 Nojay UK
Certainly. And if they had, forex, done away with the rotten boroughs and given those mp’s over to the colonies they would have probably had the taxes raised to pay off the 7 Years War without the complaints that the Stamp and Townsend Acts provoke which would then have avoided the issues of the Tea Act et al a few years later.
There would always be contention between the colonies and the homeland - see the history of British Canada for that. Still had the legitimate desire of the colonies to participate in their legislative and taxation destiny, things might have been considerably different.
Not the least of which would be things like Spanish North America to the Missisppi and Russian Alaska reaching down around Vancouver…
re: #230 William Lewis
Imagine the Charge of the Light Brigade in Spokane.
re: #229 Jack Burton
Don’t get happy. They can say all this bullshit now, but every one of those Confederate Battle Flag waving, Trump worshiping, racist asshats will be voting on Jan 5. I guarantee it. Everyone on our side that can vote in that election must, as if the fate of the country depends on it. Because it pretty much does.
Please remember, Trump successfully decreased GOP turnout by talking down voting by mail in the Presidential election…
We need to do everything we can, but it he’s scored “own goals” before, so it is not impossible to do so again. Raise money, register people to vote, and vote like we’re 2 points behind… but it is not impossible that we’ll get some help from them being such idiots.
re: #231 jaunte
Imagine the Charge of the Light Brigade in Spokane.
Yow! Oh, Mr. Turtledove, have we got something for you!
re: #232 Patricia Kayden
Borowitz missed the target here IMO.
Lindsey Graham is much better cast as Trump’s dog than Pence.
re: #222 EPR-radar
“Taxation without representation” was a legit beef the US colonies had vs. Great Britain.
The Thirteen Colonies were not taxed to anything like the levels of citizens in Britain but they cost a lot to support in terms of military expenditures to protect the trade routes, defend against the French and others on the CONUS etc. As for representation, it would take a Colonial constituent representative weeks of dangerous ocean travel to get back and forth between Parliament and his home making real representation very difficult to impossible. It was bad enough for those British constituencies in, for example, the north of Scotland and other remote areas, Trans-Atlantic distances would have made things ten times worse.
“Taxation without Representation” was another slogan, just like the supposed grievances laid at the door of King George III, another excuse for white men to break away from British rule and go forth to conquer and pillage the rest of the continent. At least you were more honest about it later when the Monroe Doctrine was enacted (“It’s all ours, screw the Native Americans”).
re: #229 Jack Burton
Don’t get happy. They can say all this bullshit now, but every one of those Confederate Battle Flag waving, Trump worshiping, racist asshats will be voting on Jan 5. I guarantee it. Everyone on our side that can vote in that election must, as if the fate of the country depends on it. Because it pretty much does.
Trumpers may not. Something like 78% of them believe the election was rigged and many would die for trump.
re: #233 jamesfirecat
Please remember, Trump successfully decreased GOP turnout by talking down voting by mail in the Presidential election…
We need to do everything we can, but it he’s scored “own goals” before, so it is not impossible to do so again. Raise money, register people to vote, and vote like we’re 2 points behind… but it is not impossible that we’ll get some help from them being such idiots.
And if trump doesn’t win he doesn’t want anyone else to win.
This is Loeffler home, I don’t think she lives paycheck to paycheck pic.twitter.com/YpsrGd43xQ
— Jonathan Webers (@JWeber988) November 30, 2020
re: #238 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
And if trump doesn’t win he doesn’t want anyone else to win.
Supposedly Trump is going to be going to Georgia and trying to get people energized for the candidates, but he’s not going to be doing until Dec. 5th, so there’s still time for him to change his mind.
Not only that but December 5th also gives an entire month for Trump to change his mind before the election itself and decide he’d rather drag down the Georgia GOP for not supporting him, because there’s nothing he can do in a personal trip to Georgia to help the Republicans that he can’t undo with one single tweet.
My children go to zoom Sunday school every week; they’ve missed one Sunday during #covid19. Planning for the virtual Christmas pageant started yesterday. I miss being in church too. I want everyone to be alive for next Christmas so am grateful my pastor is keeping our doors shut. https://t.co/DQ5qWA6AE2
— Chelsea Clinton (@ChelseaClinton) November 30, 2020
re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth
Thread:
Mary, traveling overland by donkey because Rome is doing another census even though she is fifty months pregnant and JUST WANTS TO BE IN HER OWN GODDAMN BED: “it’s very important that the lesson you take from my story is to put your own personal wants above the greater good”
— Claire Willett (@clairewillett) November 30, 2020
re: #103 lawhawk
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read the whole thing (a tweet thread).
I’m not sure I can write in open forum what I think of some of the replies in that thread.
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So I guess Krebs did his job a little too well….
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) November 30, 2020
re: #239 jaunte
Are you kidding me? That’s her house? Wow.
Bizarrely, not only is there no Edison County in Michigan, there is no Edison County anywhere in the US. https://t.co/6O3bYEYe22
— James Surowiecki (@JamesSurowiecki) November 30, 2020
Can’t even imagine how many buses that took.
— Mark Pitcavage (@egavactip) December 1, 2020
Sounds credible, man. pic.twitter.com/8zuuEpfnhX
— Doktor Zoom (@DoktorZoom) December 1, 2020
re: #24 DesertDenizen
Thank all the expat Californians and young non-white folks. Despite the Air Force base, Tucson is deep blue and the Phoenix area seems to be trending that way as it grows even bigger.
My precinct (just east of Gilbert Rd in Mesa) was *this* close to going blue. It’s the closest I’ve ever seen. I was astounded. It could be population change, or it could be that people were just disgusted. I don’t know.
re: #246 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
They’re so stupid. Really really stupid.
Trump University had a course on Edison County. It was named after Albert Edison, whose theory of special irrelevancy allowed the Alan Parsons Project to invent the atomic balm.
— JRehling (@JRehling) December 1, 2020
re: #247 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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I felt like even looking for this was a complete waste of time but here it is:
re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth
Mathew 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. https://t.co/Z10M7ZpWrk
— Brother Holy Cruise Missile Of Mild Acceptance (@dreggas) December 1, 2020
re: #240 jamesfirecat
Supposedly Trump is going to be going to Georgia and trying to get people energized for the candidates, but he’s not going to be doing until Dec. 5th, so there’s still time for him to change his mind.
Not only that but December 5th also gives an entire month for Trump to change his mind before the election itself and decide he’d rather drag down the Georgia GOP for not supporting him, because there’s nothing he can do in a personal trip to Georgia to help the Republicans that he can’t undo with one single tweet.
Trump went down to Georgia.
He was looking for an election to steal.